Tiew Yong Xian (37) Reply to : [Alvin Chia (7) Reply to Xinyuan (36)]

I believe that one person may not be able to make much of a difference, and that there is strength in numbers.
Also, I disagree with the part where you save loved ones first before saving others.
You should save yourself before even attempting to save someone else. As the saying goes, 'He who runs away today, lives to fight another day'.

Condemn me for being selfish, you may. Your own life is as important as others, I know. As long as you survive, you can help others along the way, and that in turn will help make a bigger difference than sacrificing your life here and now instead of living and saving many other lives another day.

Tiew Yong Xian (37)

I hold my home, my family, friends, electronics and my food most dear, as they are my comfort zone and will always be close to me.

The three aspects I would choose are loyalty, determination and family.

For loyalty, I believe that humans should be loyal to their family and friends. Betrayers are whom I condemn. Loyalty is the root of all the aspects. Being loyal to the beliefs, being loyal to fellow comrades and being loyal to the country to protect itself in times of need.
Determination is the desire to protect. Courage is the desire to protect. They are both the same. Determination does much more than courage. Determination brings loyalty, strength and courage.
Family spirit is important. People in a family are loyal to one another, and will not betray one another. United, we stand. Divided, we fall.

Alvin Chia (7): Reply to Xinyuan (36)

I admire your selflessness in striving to save as many people as possible and to protect the national identity in times of crisis. Although there is a limit to what one person can do, there are also cases where one person can make a difference.
I think we should always try to save our loved ones first before we try to make a difference and save others.

Alvin Chia (7)

I would defend my home, my family and friends. If we do not have a home, where can we go, where would we live? The family forms the basic unit of society, without which life would be quite meaningless. Our family and friends are important as they are people whom we can depend on to help us in times of need.
The three aspects that are important would be determination, perseverance and steadfastness. Determination will keep me going forward. Perseverance will help me weather the challenges. Steadfastness will keep me on the task.
All these would help me to decide what and who to defend and protect in times of crisis. This is becoming more important as there is always a threat that terrorists might strike Singapore one day. We must always be on our guard and be ready to defend wholeheartedly what we feel is most important and dear to us.

Tan Chuan Hao (36) To Lee jia Yan (21)

Obviously like everyone else I would protect those that are closest to me, friends and family. And of course my country when in war.

The three expects are courage, without it i wont even dare to fight a battle. Family spirit! If not i wont even want to save them. And determination, to continue defending until the very end!

Although you stated that you would protect your country, you did not state any aspects that support that... I do understand that your family to you is more important than the country but where would your parents be if they have no safe place to live in?

Tan Chuan Hao (36)

I would definitely protect my family, my friends, my country and all that is close to me. If not for them i would not be able to become what I am today. I might be some arrogant brat that doesn't care about anything. The world is a large place, but I was born in Singapore, my homeland, if I do not protect it what would become of it. Even if i do not really like it, i would still try my best to protect it as it is where I was born. My friends are also very dear to me as they have provided me the motivation to move on for a long time. Even if they are not very close to me, they also have to deserve to stay alive, not everyone is as fortunate as us to be able to live such good lives, therefore we have to protect it and not waste it away just like that

The three aspects that are I will go on for is, determination, love, and happiness.

Determination is one of the few aspects I would go for as it pushes me to go on, or I would not be able to do anything. Giving up is not much of an option if you are defending all that is dear to you.

Love is another important aspect as it provides me the drive to move on to save all that have been with me for all these years making me stand back on my feet whenever I fall. How could I forget these important things

Happiness is also a very important aspect as without it I would not have the determination to do anything as my life would be to terrible to be able to live it through. I would most probably be too depressed to do anything during the battle, even if lives are at stake.

Chan Kah Hon 04 (Commenting on Chiow Yan Hui)

If ever a threat or crisis looms over Singapore, the foremost thing on my mind would be the defense of my family. My family is my life, the people who made me who I am and an inseparable part of my life. Without them would be akin to ripping your heart in two. 

I would agree that many people would be quick to criticize my views, slamming me for choosing my family over my country, asking where is my sense of patriotism and generally having the impression that I am a selfish coward. 

These people are right in a sense. At the surface it does indeed seem like I am selfish, preferring to whisk my family to safety first. But if one looks a bit deeper and has the comprehension to understand the principle behind my actions, they too would agree with me.

Like Confucius said many centuries ago, happy and peaceful families are the strong foundations that hold up great nations and civilizations. The force that decides whether a nation is glorious or falls into ruin is the family. If families are unhappy, discontent and do not trust their own leaders, how can you expect the nation to survive in peacetime, let alone war? There would be rebellions, coups and uprisings all over the nation. Of course the government could try suppressing all these, but how long can they do it? Don't forget, the soldiers in the armies also have families of their own. How long before their families convince or force them to help overthrow the government? In the end one has to agree that history has and will continue to prove that families are an integral part of society. 

Three aspects of society I believe are worth fighting and dying to protect and defend. 

Family: The building blocks of society and the people closest to you.

Friends: The people you share common interests with, grow up with or stand alongside in times of crisis.

Freedom: All humans are free to make their own choices and suppressing that is a blatant violation of the laws of nature.

Commenting on Chiow Yan Hui (8):

I agree with Yan Hui on the majority of his views but I have to digress once he touches on the issue of defending his country. 

Perhaps one might think that country is the most important thing we should strive to defend. 

But what about the spirit of the people? Even if you keep the nation, which is simply a piece of land, but lose the spirit of the people, who become depressed, unhappy and lose the will to recover, how can one expect the country to pick itself up? 

Although what if you keep the spirit of the people? Like the old saying, "keep the flame alive", if the flames of determination are kept alive, the people would eventually prevail and ultimately reclaim their nation and pride back. What do I mean?

Look at France for example. When France surrendered to Nazi Germany , many of it's people were actually unhappy! They wanted to continue the fight and drive the invaders away. Notable among the growing resistance movement was no doubt Charles DeGaulle, a young French officer, who formed a Free French Army composed of French volunteers who were determined to reclaim their homeland. Here was a perfect example of the spirit of the people in action. 

Also worthy of mention is the mujahideen, Islamic guerillas who eventually drove the technologically superior Russians out of Afghanistan. They too are good examples of the spirit of the people in full swing. 

Of course if one can hold on to both country and spirit, that would be great. Although if one day the decision came to whether sacrifice all the nation's sons and daughters to keep the nation or lose the country but spare the bloodshed and keep the spirit alive, I would have to advise all who read this to think it through before they make too hasty a decision.

Perhaps after you read this you will think differently about this issue. Like General Douglas MacArthur famously declared during World War 2 when he had to abandon his men in the Philippines to the advancing Japanese, "Keep the flag flying, I shall return".

Andrew See(33)

To me the people that i will protect are my loved ones. As they are the closest and most important to me. I will defend my country as it is where i grew up in and it's a place i can call home.

The three aspects that i follow are determination , perseverance and love. These are the things that will keep me going. Determination is one of my aspects as without it , once we encounter failure we would just give up , and the battle would be lost.

Perseverance is important as there will be many tough times that we must pull through on our own to continue our lives.

Love is the power that pushes me on , to believe in my aspects. Without love , I feel there is nothing worth fighting for.

Chiow Yan Hui(8)

For me the ones that are closest and most precious to me are all my friends and my families. Whenever my country is in danger i would always defend it because it is the place which i call home and where all my loved ones live, and they will always be at my side supporting me and giving me encouragement, and sharing and shouldering my burdens and troubles. They are the center of my life and i cannot bear to see them been harmed.

The three aspects that i always stand by is love, family and determination. The idea of protecting my love ones and my family always give me courage to do the things that are needed to be done to protecte my loved ones and my country.

Determination is one thing that one must have to achieve their dreams and aspirations, with determination comes hard work this two must be held together to be the key to success, not everyone in the world is born talented so hard work is also needed to achieve ones dreams.

Ang Xu Kai (2)

For me, the ones that are closest to me are the ones I would protect them from harm. Including my own country. I feel that I have a responsibility in protecting my country from enemies, for this is my home. My love ones and dearest to me always will be on my side supporting, sharing my troubles and burden. They are the most important people in my life and I could not bear them being harm.

In my life, I always go by these three aspects. Courage, determination and hard-work. Having the courage to stand up for your country and fight for peace. Courage helps one stand up for oneself and not afraid of any setbacks.

Determination is the thing one must have in order to achieve dreams. As for hard-work, it is the key to every success. No one is born a talent. If there is hard-work, results could be seen.

Lee jia Yan (21) e learning

Obviously like everyone else I would protect those that are closest to me, friends and family. And of course my country when in war.

The three expects are courage, without it i wont even dare to fight a battle. Family spirit! If not i wont even want to save them. And determination, to continue defending until the very end!

Gerald Tong(38) comments on What would I defend? (Kevin Wong)

Gerald Tong(38) comments on What would I defend? (Kevin Wong)

What I would hold most dear, would be my country, my family, and my friends.

My three aspects would be loyalty, courage and determination.

We need to be loyal to our country, our friends and family. Because, without them, we would not be who we are.

We need courage in times of darkness. We need the courage to go on. We need to courage to do things that we must do. But, to have the courage to do these things, we must have determination, which brings me to the next aspect.

Determination. We sorely need it, for without it, we would be unable to do many things.

i agree on most of your stated aspects but not too much on loyalty.Would you really stand up for your country? I am sure that your family is much more important.You would most likely secure the safety of your family members.Would you stay back and risk your life? It is also important to play smart not just your guts to do something.

Gordon Cheong (6) E-Learning

Those that I hold dear in my life is of course my loved ones and I would strive to protect and defend them in times of threat or crisis.

The three aspects is selflessness, determination and love for others. Determination, this helps us keep to our beliefs and goals as without it, nothing can be achieved. Selflessness, I am willing to give up my life in order to save my loved ones. Love of others, this also helps us strive on because you know whatever you do, it is for the benefit of those you love

Ryan Foong (14)

1. What do you hold most dear in life such that you would strive to protect and defend in times of threat or crisis?

2. For the above question, state three different aspects and include in your responses, why you think these specific aspects are important to you.

1. What I hold most dear in my life which I would strive to protect and defend would be my family, my friends and my home.

2. I think that courage, responsibility and determination are important to me. Courage would give you confidence no matter what you are doing. Having a sense of responsibility is important, as it is what makes the difference between two types of people. Determination would give you the drive and willpower for what you do.

alex Lim Wei Quan (1) reply to david (10)

I would agree that david has a very good point which is reason why we singapore citizens need to protect singapore. It is because we singaporeans would definitely developed a special feeling to this country, Singapore, as this is the place where we all are born and no matter what we need to cherish and protect it.

Ryan Cheng(5) reply to Teo Xinyuan (36)

1. What do you hold most dear in life such that you would strive to protect and defend in times of threat or crisis?

2. For the above question, state three different aspects and include in your responses, why you think these specific aspects are important to you.

1. I would strive to protect and defend those in need, even if it is not in my power to do so. I would also make sure that as nobody or very little people would get hurt. Finally, if its a nation-wide crisis, i would strive to protect the nations identity so that if it ever perished in any circumstances, it would still be known as a nation.

2. A few aspects i mentioned are determination, selflessness and care of others. This would be very important to our lives as it would not only allow people to respect you, but it will allow you to do many great and selfless things with this mindset

I am touched that Xinyuan would go all out to protect complete strangers, but realistically, there is not much you can do for others if you yourself are desperately trying to survive.

Alex Lim Wei Quan (1)

1. What do you hold most dear in life such that you would strive to protect and defend in times of threat or crisis?

2. For the above question, state three different aspects and include in your responses, why you think these specific aspects are important to you.

My country, family and friends are the ones i hold most dear in my life that i would strive to protect them.

Courage , perserverance and loyalty are three different aspects.

Without courage, a person would not have the guts to protect what he desire to protect. He would only care about his own safety. With courage, even with the most difficult circumstances, you would do your very best just to defend your love ones.

Without perserverance, the person would just give up along the way while facing difficult obstacle, he would not even bother trying to overcome it. With perserverance, no matter how hard the obstacle it may be, i would definitely try all means just to overcome this obstacle which also to put one's will into full use as there is always light at the end of the tunnel and when there is a will there is a way.

A singapore citizen must be loyal to their country in order to protect it from enemies.

John Ng (16) comment on Jeremy Ho (15)

Jeremy said :

1. My family and friends are most dear in my life, I would protect and defend them and even people that i do not know. If i am unable to do so, i would still find ways of helping and make sure that no harm comes to them. If it may be a major issue such as war, i would definitely try my best to protect my country no matter how insignificant it would be.

2. The few aspects are bravery, determination and helpfulness. They are very important as without bravery, would you protect what is dear to you? Would you hide and run away when facing danger? If you are not determined when you fail, would you try and try again? If people are in need of help, would you just ignore them?

My comment :

I was moved when Jeremy said that he would protect and defend the people that he do not even know. He would still try and find ways of helping and make sure that no harm comes to them even if he can't. Jeremy really lives up to his aspects of bravery, determination and helpfulness. Two simple sentences can describe three important aspects of him.

Ryan Cheng (5) 2H

Hi, I am Ryan Cheng from 2h. I would defend my family first, as it is instinctive to protect the ones you love first.
Then, I would defend my friends, as they mean a lot to me and hep me get through every day.
Lastly, I would defend my freedom as that is the basic right of all humans.
My three aspects are: Resolve, Strength, and Hope. Resolve is important as it helps us endure and strive towards our dream. Strength is not just physical, but you must have emotional strength and mental strength to carry on. And last but not least, hope.If you do not have hope, you would give up and life would be pointless.

John Ng (16)

1. What do you hold most dear in life such that you would strive to protect and defend in times of threat or crisis?

2. For the above question, state three different aspects and include in your responses, why you think these specific aspects are important to you.

1. My family and friends are the things I would hold most dear in life such that I would strive to protect and defend in times of threat or crisis.

2. Courage, Determination and Loyalty.

Courage : If there is a threat or crisis, I would need to be courageous to fight the battle.

Determination : If we are losing the battle, I would need determination to continue to fight it no matter what happens.

Loyalty : I would need to be loyal to my country and fight on till the end.

Comment on Gerald Tong (Kevin Wong)

Gerald Tong Said: my family and friends means most to me.I would do anything to protect them from harm.I would also be happy to protect my country as it is my home and where i stay.

Courage,selflessness,helpfulness.

Without courage, you would not have the guts to risk your life to save others when there is danger.Selflessness is important as sometimes we must think about others and not always thinking about ourself. Helpfulness is important as we must be willing to lend a hand to people in need if they are in need or danger.

My comment is that everyone must have courage, i agree. But, if you have the courage, you must be smart as well. If your friends were pinned down by enemy fire, you must be brave to save them. But you cannot run into the field and distract the enemy's fire. You would die and your friends would still be pinned.

Now, selflessness. If you always think about everyone else, you will always feel stressed. Also, if you give everything to everybody who is poor, you will also become poor as you have no possessions. No, the smart thing to do is to help those you can, not everybody.

Finally, you cannot be so helpful. I once was too helpful and sought to help everyone i could by teaching them. What happened was i did not complete my homework and stayed up late to finish it. Also, because of that, i fell asleep in classes and started to fail. No, that is not how to go. You should help, but not to the extremes.

David Chang (10) --to-- Justin Ng (30)

I agree with what Justin had said .
And I believe that his aspects are also positive .
We have two of the same aspects , Determination and Courage .
As in my last post I have written , we have to got the Determination and Courage .
To defend our country and family .
I totally feel that his last aspect (Selflessness) is Vital .
We can never be selfish .
"One who is selfish will never go far in life as he does not know how to give but do not receive."
Quoted from Justin Ng , fantastic phrase .
There is a Bible Verse I would like to share too ,
Acts 20:35 "It is more blessed to give than to receive" .

What would I defend? (Kevin Wong)

What I would hold most dear, would be my country, my family, and my friends.

My three aspects would be loyalty, courage and determination.

We need to be loyal to our country, our friends and family. Because, without them, we would not be who we are.

We need courage in times of darkness. We need the courage to go on. We need to courage to do things that we must do. But, to have the courage to do these things, we must have determination, which brings me to the next aspect.

Determination. We sorely need it, for without it, we would be unable to do many things.

I am David Chang (10) 2Henry
My three aspects would be ,
Determination , Courage and Loyalty .
I will do my best to protect my family , friends and my country .
They are the most dear to me . I cannot believe a life without any single of them .
We will need the courage to fight the war . Its not a easy task to defend our country .
You got to risk your life out there in a war . You got to have courage to do it .
Determination , fight till our very last breathe .
We need the determination to go all out for it , no matter what the circumstances are .
We have to defend our countries and family with all our lives .
That is what Determination is all about .
Lastly , ask yourselves ,
Will you be loyal to the country forever ?
We need to be loyal to our contries .
Its a fact that Singapore is small , and thats a natural disadvantage to us already .
We might be taken over , and at that time , I feel that we still got to be loyal to Singapore .
This is where we grew up . We must defend and be loyal to our motherland .

Justin Ng (30-2H) Reply To Gerald Tong (38-2H)

I agree with who you want to protect, who is the closest people to you. I would instinctively do that too.

I agree with your three aspects as they all are required when one needs to lend a helping hand. Without courage, one would not go forward to help. Without Selflessness, one would never be able to sacrifice something without rewards. Without helpfulness, one would never ever help others at all.

XuZhiKang ----18 Reply to Khoo Hong Liang

Khoo Hong Liang said you would also needs honesty so that you would not be a traitor to your country.

But honesty means to be sincere , if you are sincere you would tell everyone about the plans if you are sincere you have nothing to hide.

Justin Ng-30-2H

The first thing that i would instinctively and would want to protect is my family. I would protect my family as they are the closest to me. They have also been there when i have ups and down. Secondly, i would protect my friends and my country.

My three aspects are Determination, Courage and Selflessness. I have chosen this three aspect as with Determination, one can do anything, even going to the furthest lengths. Without determination, one would be unable to fufil his wishes, much less protect the ones around him. Second, Courage is important as without courage, one would be a coward. A coward is unable to face reality, therefore in case of emergencies, one without courage would most probably shun rather than lend a helping hand. Lastly, selflessness is important as there are many things in the world that do not give rewards. One who is selfish will never go far in life as he does not know how to give but do not receive.

XuZhiKang ----18

I Would protect my family and friends as they are the ones whom i hold most dear to me, i would do whatever it takes to protect them . I would also protect my country as it is my home and all my friends live there if anything happens to my country my friends and family would get hurt.

Courage, determination and selflessness

Courage is needed as without it every one would be scared to go to war and one would have the courage to defend our country. Determination gives the will to survive and tells us that we can win and we are able to do the impossible. Selflessness as it helps us to give strength to sacrifice our selves in order to protect our country.

Khoo Hong Liang (20) Reply to Teo Xin Yuan (36)

Xin Yuan said:

1. I would strive to protect and defend those in need, even if it is not in my power to do so. I would also make sure that as nobody or very little people would get hurt. Finally, if its a nation-wide crisis, i would strive to protect the nations identity so that if it ever perished in any circumstances, it would still be known as a nation.

2. A few aspects i mentioned are determination, selflessness and care of others. This would be very important to our lives as it would not only allow people to respect you, but it will allow you to do many great and selfless things with this mindset

I agree with you that self-sacrifice is sometimes needed to prevent people from getting hurt, but do you think that your own sacrifice could lead to the country being save? I also agree with all your aspects except for selfishness as selfishness would mostly lead to your downfall.

Gerald Tong(38) comment on Teo Xin Yuan (36)Xin Yuan said:1. I would strive to protect and defend those in need, even if it is not in my power to do so. I would also make sure that as nobody or very little people would get hurt. Finally, if its a nation-wide crisis, i would strive to protect the nations identity so that if it ever perished in any circumstances, it would still be known as a nation.2. A few aspects i mentioned are determination, selflessness and care of others. This would be very important to our lives as it would not only allow people to respect you, but it will allow you to do many great and selfless things with this mindsetIt is impossible for 1 man to save all the people in need. There are many people in need in different countries in the world.If you say" I would strive to protect and defend those in need, even if it is not in my power to do so.'' it means you are going around the world saving people in need?

Gerald Tong(38) comment on Teo Xin Yuan (36)

Xin Yuan said:

1. I would strive to protect and defend those in need, even if it is not in my power to do so. I would also make sure that as nobody or very little people would get hurt. Finally, if its a nation-wide crisis, i would strive to protect the nations identity so that if it ever perished in any circumstances, it would still be known as a nation.

2. A few aspects i mentioned are determination, selflessness and care of others. This would be very important to our lives as it would not only allow people to respect you, but it will allow you to do many great and selfless things with this mindset

It is impossible for 1 man to save all the people in need. There are many people in need in different countries in the world.If you say" I would strive to protect and defend those in need, even if it is not in my power to do so.'' it means you are going around the world saving people in need?

Khoo Hong Liang (20) E-learning

My Family and friends are those that are the most dear in my life and i would protect them no matter what. When terrorism strikes I would protect my country, if I did not protect my country well enough my family or friends would get hurt and I would not have place to stay.

Courage, Determination and Honesty. When you are at war, you would need Courage to protect your family and friends, you would Determination to continue protecting your family and friends you would also needs honesty so that you would not be a traitor to your country.

Gerald Tong 38 2h

My family and friends means most to me.I would do anything to protect them from harm.I would also be happy to protect my country as it is my home and where i stay.

Courage,selflessness,helpfulness.

Without courage, you would not have the guts to risk your life to save others when there is danger.Selflessness is important as sometimes we must think about others and not always thinking about ourself. Helpfulness is important as we must be willing to lend a hand to people in need if they are in need or danger.

Edwin Yeo (40) comment on Teo Xin Yuan (36)

Xin Yuan said:

1. I would strive to protect and defend those in need, even if it is not in my power to do so. I would also make sure that as nobody or very little people would get hurt. Finally, if its a nation-wide crisis, i would strive to protect the nations identity so that if it ever perished in any circumstances, it would still be known as a nation.

2. A few aspects i mentioned are determination, selflessness and care of others. This would be very important to our lives as it would not only allow people to respect you, but it will allow you to do many great and selfless things with this mindset

What makes you so sure that nobody or very little would get hurt, especially if it was a nation-wide crisis?  I agree with all of your aspects except selflessness. If you proceeded to protect other at the cost of self-sacrifice, then you would only be able to protect a handful, this will not get you anywhere near protecting everyone in a crisis.

Edwin Yeo (40)

My family and friends are the important things to me, and i would definitely do anything to protect them, be it minor or major. I would also protect my country, for without it, I would have no home.

Courage, Determination and Perseverance. Courage to protect the ones close to me, determination to keep fighting no matter what happens, and perseverance to endure through anything which might occur. These are the aspects which I think are important to me.

Chua Yi Kai (9) e-learning

1)My most dear in my life to me is my family and my country. I would defend them at all cost even if it cost the risk of my life, being able to risk your life for what is important to you is what a true man does, what a person should do. If in terms on war or terrorism, i will strive to protect my country with my two hands, trying the best i could

to do it, to minimise the number of casualties even at the expense of my life.

2) My 3 aspects of life are determination, courage and helpfulness. These are the 3 aspects that are important to me, if you do not have determination, when your country is losing the ask war, will you run away? Will you carry and fight to the end? If you are do not have courage, when your sergeant you to venture alone to get information, will you say no? Will you take it and go for it? If you are not helpful, when you see people in need and are getting killed by the enemy, will you stop it and rush forward? Will you take this time to run away and hide cowardly? I will make sure that i do these 3 aspects to protect my country and family with all i can.

Lee Jia Ying (22) Comments to Teo Xin Yuan

I agree with what you said, don't you think that "those in need" i kind of vague? Anybody in the world could be in need, and it could be for different reasons, which can vary from financial issues to academic issues.

Lee Jia Ying (22) E-Learning

To me, my friends and family are the most important things to me. they comfort me when i am feeling down, laugh with me when i am happy and cry with me when i am sad. I would definately strive to protect them because without them, my whole life feels to empty

Till now, the only thing that really pisses me off is when I see someone making my friend sad or causing hurt to them. Whenever I see this kind of situiations, i would definatly stand up for my friend and protect them.

Desmond Tay (comment on Jeremy Ho)

1. I agree with Jeremy when he said he would defend his friends and family. Helping each other is very important as it could contribute to the protection of our relatives and even strangers.

2. I feel that apart from friends and family, we should also defend our culture and way of life, as this is what distinguishes us from others, with values such as cooperation, consideration, bravery and so on. To cooperate will enable us to work together and more efficiently, as with consideration. With bravery, we will be able to do what is needed.

Jeremy Ho (15) comment on Teo Xin Yuan (36)

Xin Yuan Said:

1. I would strive to protect and defend those in need, even if it is not in my power to do so. I would also make sure that as nobody or very little people would get hurt. Finally, if its a nation-wide crisis, i would strive to protect the nations identity so that if it ever perished in any circumstances, it would still be known as a nation.

2. A few aspects i mentioned are determination, selflessness and care of others. This would be very important to our lives as it would not only allow people to respect you, but it will allow you to do many great and selfless things with this mindset

My Comment:

I agree on your opinion that we should help and defend the needy, but are you so certain that you would be able to make sure that they would not get hurt? I also agree on your aspects as they really allow you to do and achieve great things but what happens if there is something that is impossible to achieve, will you still follow this mindset?

Jeremy Ho (15) E-learning

1. My family and friends are most dear in my life, I would protect and defend them and even people that i do not know. If i am unable to do so, i would still find ways of helping and make sure that no harm comes to them. If it may be a major issue such as war, i would definitely try my best to protect my country no matter how insignificant it would be.

2. The few aspects are bravery, determination and helpfulness. They are very important as without bravery, would you protect what is dear to you? Would you hide and run away when facing danger? If you are not determined when you fail, would you try and try again? If people are in need of help, would you just ignore them?

Teo Xinyuan (36) English E-learning

1. What do you hold most dear in life such that you would strive to protect and defend in times of threat or crisis?

2. For the above question, state three different aspects and include in your responses, why you think these specific aspects are important to you.

1. I would strive to protect and defend those in need, even if it is not in my power to do so. I would also make sure that as nobody or very little people would get hurt. Finally, if its a nation-wide crisis, i would strive to protect the nations identity so that if it ever perished in any circumstances, it would still be known as a nation.

2. A few aspects i mentioned are determination, selflessness and care of others. This would be very important to our lives as it would not only allow people to respect you, but it will allow you to do many great and selfless things with this mindset

Ang Xu Kai (2) Reply to Chua Yi Kai (9)

I agree with you that CCTV can intrude some privacy. But, having to install one can help to reduce the crime rate, then it is worthwhile.

There is a way to solve the problem and that is to explain to the neighbors. An explanation is always helpful and citizens would understand because everyone hope that Singapore is free of crimes.

Ang Xu Kai (2)

In my opinion, I feel that installing a CCTV has its pros and cons. Talking about its good points is it can actually further strengthen security and is an equipment of capturing evidence. For example, when there is a break-in or having loan sharks at your doorstep, CCTV can identify the person guilty and take actions against him. Furthermore, it can also save the innocent. If there is a crime case and it took place where there is a CCTV, it can clarify who the criminal is. It also gives you a piece of your mind regarding the safety of your house.

For its disadvantages, there is not much. Having a CCTV can sometimes make your neighbors feel that you are spying on them and intrude their privacy. This will then cause a little conflict between each other. If your neighbors understand your intention, the conflict will be resolved.

In conclusion, having a CCTV proves to have more pros than cons and is worth the money for installing it.

Alex Lim Wei Quan (1)

CCTV has mainly two advantages, which is to reduce crimes such as burglary or robberies, another advantage is to help decrease the workload of police officers or even security guards as they cant 24hrs daily walking around to look out for any suspicious looking person or even be at the place where the crime had happened which in times, CCTV proved to be useful.

The only disadvantage for the use of CCTV is that I believe that CCTV cant get a 360 degree angle to record everything that is happening which it may have loopholes.

Chua Yi Kai (9)

The advantages of having the CCTV surveillance is that we can see what is on going on the streets and to prevent terrorism, and to increase security to for crime cases like robbery.

The disadvantages is that these cameras will surely intrude our privacy, and that people, having the thought that you are being watched everywhere u go everything u do, sure affects your mood of doing things.

Chan Kah Hon (4)

I think that the advantages of CCTV are worth the intrusion of people's privacy. Sometimes a little discomfort for one could go a long way to helping many others.

For example, people might baulk at the prospect of a CCTV in a toilet or fitting room. But what if a terrorist tried to assemble a bomb in there? With a CCTV camera there, we could prevent this from happening. Not to mention the people inside would not even know there was a camera there if it's placed very discreetly.

Of course I am not justifying the immoral use of these cameras. I strongly encourage the use of CCTV to further our community's protection against those who might wish us harm. But not the use of CCTV to knowingly intrude on people's privacy.

Thus after making my point, I have to leave my conclusion standing that it has to be decided in the community first before installing.

Chiow Yan Hui (8)

Chiow Yan Hui (8)

What are the advantages of CCT surveilance? They can be used to instill fear into the people of the public because when the citiznes see the camera they will instinctly mind what they do and try not to do bad things in front of the CCTV cameras. I think that more CCTV cameras should be installed becasue when the people see more of the cameras they will know that they are constantly watched so they will constantly abide by the law. I strongly fell that smaller cameras and cameras of higher technology should be installed so the security people can watch from a more discreetly and they can spot more of the bad things that people do like littering and spitting on the floor.

Eugene Gwan (13) Reply To Khoo Hong Liang (20)

Khoo hong Liang said"I agree that CCTV surveillance will be able to reduce the crime rate in the area. I would also recommend that they install CCTV surveillance in other places such as the jail to prevent criminal from escaping. We should also install CCTV surveillance in malls so that there would be lesser or even no stealing cases. But installing CCTV surveillance would intrude people privacy."

i think that they should not install CCTV as it intrudes privacy and people cannot rest or shop in peace when the know that someone is spying on them. CCTV should be installed but they should be hidden where no one can see it and they should not tell the people that they are monitering them

Khoo Hong Liang (20) Reply to Ian Ng (29)

Ian said "The advantage of the CCT surveillance is that it will be able to reduce the crime rate in that area, and that the recorded videos could be used as evidence when a crime takes place. However, being watched all the time after stepping out of your house might be an intrusion of privacy."

I agree that CCTV surveillance will be able to reduce the crime rate in the area. I would also recommend that they install CCTV surveillance in other places such as the jail to prevent criminal from escaping. We should also install CCTV surveillance in malls so that there would be lesser or even no stealing cases. But installing CCTV surveillance would intrude people privacy.

Lee Jia Ying (22) Reply to Jia Yan

I agree that investing in digital surveillance can be good, but even with all those high end cameras, the guards watching the screen might be complacent and not pay attention to the screen during his duty hours. for example, a robbery might be going on, and he still does not notice because he has his attention on another object. so we also need to consider the possibilities of human error which might screw up the whole thing even with high end cameras.

Alvin Chia (7) : Comments on Desmond Tay's entry

I do not think alarm systems are a good alternative to CCTV cameras. Alarms just alert people to a crime happening and by the time people get to the scene, the culprit would have escaped if he was fast enough.

As we all know, most of the security guards we see are mostly old people as most young people would not want to work as security guards. This leads to a shortage of capable guards. Furthermore, guards cannot be at every place at any one time.

That is why in places like commercial buildings (banks), a combined system of alarms, CCTV cameras and security guards are being used. The alarm system serves to alert people, CCTV cameras to provide crucial evidence to solve a crime and secuity guards to act as eyes to deter crime and help to arrest the suspect.

Every system has its own merits, depending on situation. We need to exercise discretion when deciding what is best or most suitable for a particular place or situation, be it the installing of alarm system, CCTV cameras or the hiring of security guards.

I still think CCTV cameras are useful. Its benefits far outweigh its cost.

REPLY TO KENNETH CHOO

What are the advantages of CCT surveilance? They can help prevent certain disasters from happening as they can watch over the people and see what they are doing. However I do not think that Singapore should install this as it intrudes into other people's privacy and majority of people do not like being watched constantly. I strongly feel that the cameras should be installed in crowded areas like Orchard Road as it is one of the most likely spots terrorists would strike and not everywhere.

I agree. Also, we should also install it at important government buildings such as Parliament House and Istana as terrorists tend to target country leaders. Not only that, we should place CCTV in crowded places such as major shopping malls and hawker centres. People don't not like being watched, as it intrudes their privacy.

Kenneth Choo (19) reply to Gabriel Lim (24)

What are the disadvantages of CCT surveillance ? I feel that even though CCT surveillance can help in such a situation when there is crime or terrorism, but in such a situation can these Surveillance cameras do anything to stop these this from happening? These cameras are only to help find the suspect of these crimes and if the suspects wears masks wouldn't it make it difficult to trace the suspects?CCT surveillance also makes people feel insecure as the feeling of being watched every time we do something or walk. And if someone was to be able to gain excess to these cameras, it might turn out as a dangerous situation.



Well, if the camera spots suspects wearing a mask, they could still raise the alarm for the police to take action as people wearing masks are most likely dangerous. I agree with you that it makes people insecure but if it is installed in the right places, it will be to our advantage.

Kenneth Choo (19)

What are the advantages of CCT surveilance? They can help prevent certain disasters from happening as they can watch over the people and see what they are doing. However I do not think that Singapore should install this as it intrudes into other people's privacy and majority of people do not like being watched constantly. I strongly feel that the cameras should be installed in crowded areas like Orchard Road as it is one of the most likely spots terrorists would strike and not everywhere.

Gabriel Lim (24)

What are the disadvantages of CCT surveillance ? 

I feel that even though CCT surveillance can help in such a situation when there is crime or terrorism, but in such a situation can these Surveillance cameras do anything to stop these this from happening? These cameras are only to help find the suspect of these crimes and if the suspects wears masks wouldn't it make it difficult to trace the suspects?

CCT surveillance also makes people feel insecure as the feeling of being watched every time we do something or walk. And if someone was to be able to gain excess to these cameras, it might turn out as a dangerous situation.

Ian Ng (29)

The advantage of the CCT surveillance is that it will be able to reduce the crime rate in that area, and that the recorded videos could be used as evidence when a crime takes place. However, being watched all the time after stepping out of your house might be an intrusion of privacy. 

Ian Ng (29) reply to Bryan Lim (25).

I agree with you to an extent that it greatly reduces the crime rate, but in every system there will be some loopholes. The surveillance will definitely be able to capture the crimes that were not planned or ill planned, but there is a possibility that in due time the more organized criminals would be able to find the flaws to this system.

Bryan Lim (25) reply to Dillon Wee (11)

It is true that CCT has their good and bad points , but if we put it in another point of view , privacy is something that we have practically all the time in our homes . While outside , we never know what may happen . And if we are not doing anything wrong , what is there to be afraid/shy of about the CCT ?

Bryan Lim (25)

What are the advantages of CCT surveillance ?

I feel that the advantages of CCT surveillance is that it greatly reduces the chances of people commiting crime or falling as a victim of crime . CCT surveillance can be also be used as evidence in the case of an car accident or crime such as robberies and kidnaps .

Lee Jia Yan (21) Question 1

When a company or government chooses to invest in digital surveillance systems, they need to invest the time in finding out how large an area needs to be watched, as well as the area's situational parameters. 

And on the highest end, there are cameras with infrared capabilities to pick up motion and changes in light regardless of poor lighting conditions. Some these high-end cameras even have 3-D imaging to better identify suspects. Companies investing in the digital system should also consider purchasing camera accessories such as weather-proofing and added material that's resistant to tampering and hazardous substances.

Soh in my opinion I do not think that the Singapore government should install these cameras as they are expensive and the government does not have anything that valuable to secure. I think they should just use those decent cameras that can monitor important places throughout the day. 

Couldn't log in to this until just now. So i posted a bit late.

Desmond Tay's reply to Dillion Wee's post

You said it is more secure because of the imaging capabilities that an alarm doesn't have. I agree with that statement, but no matter how many cameras there are, there is still a need for someone to be on constant watch. With an alarm, action can be taken quicker and the crime could be prevented instead of just investigated after it happens. There will also be no need for any tracing of people if the crime did not happen.

Justin Ng's Reply to Gerald Tong's topic-Disdvantages of CCTV

In your post, you stated that people would think of ideas and solutions to bypass the CCT when more CCT are installed.  I agree with you, but that will not happen it due time. This is because when there's the CCT, people will have to spend time and effort; Probably money as well, to find such an idea to bypass CCT. But when this happens, we would have to think of another different way to conquer the crimes and ideas and solutions at that time. Therefore, i am not saying that it is not true that people will think of ways to bypass CCT, but that every item that puts law into place will finally be bypassed by people; It is only a matter of time.

Jeremy Ho (15) reply to Justin Ng's (30) comment

Justin's comment was this:
There are many advantages of CCT Surveillance. One of the main advantages is to be able to keep watch, which is also the CCT Surveillance purpose. Being able to keep watch with the CCT Surveillance will decrease crime rates as one would be able to track criminals easily. Like said in the article, CNN-Big Brothers will be watching you, Hollywood has CCT Surveillance cameras placed around the area, and over the years, police have noted a 60% drop in crime rates in the area. Thus, if this surveillance can be magnified to span over a whole country, there would most likely, and possibly a huge drop in crime rates in the country. Also, surveillance will be able to keep law in order. This is because with today's technology, small details can be caught on tape. Even small crimes like speeding; one can be caught on tape easily due to the CCT surveillance catching them "red handed" by filming down their liscense plate. Another reason for crime drop rates can also possibly be because criminals are aware of the CCT Surveillance and think twice before acting. Therefore another advantage can be that it allows first time criminals to reconsider their actions.
My Reply
Well, I agree on your opinion but I think that the CCT surveillances are not as good as what you stated. They may help in the arrestment of a criminal or even to help decrease crime rates but since it is positioned around the city monitoring every single hour, it invades your privacy and could cause major issues about the cameras. Also, if the criminals have heard of these CCT surveillances, they would most likely try to come out with a crime perfect enough, so that the cameras will be unable to capture them.

Xu Zhi Kang's(18) reply to Ryan Cheng's (5) reply to Xu Zhi Kang

If cctv can save lives all that does not matter, would you rather prevent crimes or would you rather have your privacy?

Ryan Cheng's (5) reply to Xu Zhi Kang

Zhi Kang's comment was this:

I think the cctv is useful as it will help in monitoring the city and help reduce crime rate because the criminals are aware that the police is watching them and if they did anything the police will know at once.

If there was a crime and the suspect is unknown we can just check the cctv to find out who is the criminal. Therefore, making it easier to arrest the criminal instead of investigating all the evidence.

While i agree that  CCTVs have many advantages, it must also be noted that they have their disadvantages. Wear and tear, invasion of privacy, and intentional damage are just some of the issues that must be addressed when installing CCTVs

Teo Xinyuan (36) Reply to Jonathan Soh's (19) comment

Jonathan's comment was this:

I think the advantages of having a CCTV camera is that firstly, it will reduce the crime rate since criminals are strongly discouraged to commit illegal acts because they are aware that their crime will be recorded. Another advantage is that if a crime is committed, it will be easier to identify the criminals from the recording of the CCTV cameras, making the search and arrest of the criminals easier.

My Reply

Although CCTV cameras can record crimes, as you said. There still will be a few blind spots. From these blind spots, criminals can use spray paint or any other way to stop the CCTVs from recording their crime. And CCTVs aren't perfect. They cannot unmasked a masked person. It is also a fact that public privacy will no longer be in existence if CCTVs are installed. Whats more, the cost of installing these CCTVs can be used to do other things more meaningful.

Dillon Wee 11

I think that it is a good idea to install CCTVs as it is more secure because of the imaging capabilities that an alarm doesn't have. It reduces crime rate as terrorist attacks like the London Bombing suspects can be traced down to prevent future attacks. On the other hand, there is a loss of privacy and many people object to this. I myself do not think highly of this idea but won't mind if singapore uses the idea of installing CCTVs around the island.

John Ng (16) Comment Alvin Chia (7) Question 3

Alvin said ''I think Singapore should step up on CCTV surveillance in light of the economic downturn. As more people will be out of jobs, some may turn to illegal means of getting money - illegal gambling, pick pocketing, robbing, among others.

Some may also borrow money from loan sharks. If the borrower were unable to pay up, the loan shark would resort to harassment of the person or his neighbours to force him to pay up.

All these incidents contributed to the increase in crimes. Based on police reports, residential break-ins and loan shark harassment had increased by more than 10% in the first three months of this year, compared to last year.

Hence, there is a need to increase CCTV surveillance to prevent crimes from happening.''

I agree with you that more people will be out of jobs, they may turn to illegal means of getting money - illegal gambling, pick pocketing, robbing, among others but even if they gamble illegally, they would play in an enclosed and deserted area, like someone's house or an isolated area where CCTVs would not be installed. There is so much happening in every corner of Singapore. We cant possibly install more CCTVs just to surveil the high theft area of Singapore. It would be pointless and would cost a lot. It would be far too expensive. No one would sponsor or install it as now we are having an economic downturn.

You also said that some may also borrow money from loan sharks. If the borrower were unable to pay up, the loan shark would resort to harassment of the person or his neighbours to force him to pay up but the loan shark can harass the person anywhere, they could harass him at a deserted alley where CCTV would never be installed there as it is pointless.

You said that all these incidents contributed to the increase in crimes. Based on police reports, residential break-ins and loan shark harassment had increased by more than 10% in the first three months of this year, compared to last year but you did not describe how the CCTVs actually aid in the apprehending of the culprits and loan sharks.

Even if we step up on CCTVs, we would need many people to watch at the hundred or thousand many screens. It would be quite pointless just to sit there and watch the hundred or thousand many screens. Besides, it would be quite a boring and lifeless job.

Jeremy Ho (15) Opinions on CCT

To me, CCT is useful as it helps to keep watch of the happenings in the city and could reduce the crimes committed as the cameras help to record what had happened at a particular time, maybe a crime in action or even a murder. These evidence could even help to solve crimes as the cameras might have caught the suspect in action and would thus make the catch of the criminal swift. Although the CCT seems to be very useful, there is also a downside. Since it monitors the city all the time, your privacy could be invaded. The CCT may also have caught you in some of the moments in which you could be doing a foolish act.

Kevin Wong (39) Comment

"Desmond Tay (35) Question 3

I do not think that Singapore should spend money on security systems that require constant checks and repairs. Instead of spending money on items such as cameras, sound alarms should be installed instead, which will alert everyone of an intruder instead of just observing the intruder. This will lead to much less work being given to police such as a need for investigation. The money can also be used to hire security guards instead, which could actually do something about the crime, as well as help those in need by giving them a job."

Comments on Desmond's entry:

Everything needs checks and repairs. Nothing is infallible. Therefore, it is more worthwhile to spend on CCTV cameras so that each camera can be seen by another, be it at the very edge, we can still see who tampered with them. If we were to spend on sound systems, they only alert people and are not very useful. For example, if it is at night at a HDB estate or a landed property, if the alarm trips, it is a very noisy and a nuisance. Also, if the people are asleep or out, the thief will grab anything he sees and runs. You have no evidence and by the time you reach the crime, the guy is gone. I know because this happened to my father. By the time he went down to the scene, the guy had taken his laptop and disappeared. And because there was no CCTV, the guy got away scot free. Nobody was alerted and the police (he was in Israel) couldn't nail the guy. About security guards, not many places are bothered to hire them. For one, they have to hire a lot of them to cover the whole mall, also they can be sick, too slow to respond, .etc. But, now, malls employ a few guards and install alarms and CCTVs everywhere apart from the restrooms. Therefore, the guards can locate the problem and get there pronto. It is more efficient than having many guards. Also, not many people want to be security guards. It is one of the jobs Singaporeans would not want to do.

Opinion About CCTV ( Lee Jia Ying 22 )

The thought of being monitored by the authorities via the use of CCTV is rather creepy. I am sure that we all need to have our own personal time and privacy, but if there are CCTVs all over the place, there would be no such thing as privacy would there? However it is true that they reduce robberies and loan shark harassments. Thus I feel that we need to weigh it against other factors before implementing it.

Xu Zhi Kang(18)--Question 1

I think the cctv is useful as it will help in monitoring the city and help reduce crime rate because the criminals are aware that the police is watching them and if they did anything the police will know at once.

If there was a crime and the suspect is unknown we can just check the cctv to find out who is the criminal. Therefore, making it easier to arrest the criminal instead of investigating all the evidence.

Jonathan Soh (19) Question 1

I think the advantages of having a CCTV camera is that firstly, it will reduce the crime rate since criminals are strongly discouraged to commit illegal acts because they are aware that their crime will be recorded. Another advantage is that if a crime is committed, it will be easier to identify the criminals from the recording of the CCTV cameras, making the search and arrest of the criminals easier.

Alvin Chia (7) Question 3

I think Singapore should step up on CCTV surveillance in light of the economic downturn. As more people will be out of jobs, some may turn to illegal means of getting money - illegal gambling, pick pocketing, robbing, among others.

Some may also borrow money from loan sharks. If the borrower were unable to pay up, the loan shark would resort to harassment of the person or his neighbours to force him to pay up.

All these incidents contributed to the increase in crimes. Based on police reports, residential break-ins and loan shark harassment had increased by more than 10% in the first three months of this year, compared to last year.

Hence, there is a need to increase CCTV surveillance to prevent crimes from happening.

Khoo Hong Liang (20) Question 2

Disadvantages of CCTV surveillance

There are many disadvantages of CCTV surveillance such as privacy invasion and it also changes the behavior of children that are under it, but the most serious problem is privacy invasion.

Privacy invasion

Every time when the amount of CCTV increases, the amount of privacy decreases. If CCTV is installed in a public toilet, it wouldn't be very nice.

Behavior of children

When the children are under the CCTV surveillance they tend to be a good boy, but once they are out of the CCTV surveillance, they change into a rough and bad boy.

Nicholas Seet Kai Wen (31)

The advantages of CCTV is that we can monitor the going-ons in the city. It is effective at keeping watch, preventing crime from happening, and help solve crime more effectively.
The disadvantages of CCTV is that that we have to waste a lot of time and money on the CCTV and restricts our privacy.
Yes, as there the rate of crime is rather high.
It intrudes our privacy, as it knows who we are going out with and stuff.

GERALD TONG 38 2h
Disadvantages OF CCT SURVEILLANCE

It prevents robberies and crime from happening.However, soon if more cct surveillance are put to use, people will think of more other ways to escape being seen on the cct surveillance and soon there will be more crime and robberies again.Like residents buying fake cct surveillance just to scare away the robbers, soon the robbers will know it is fake.People should stay more alert and vigilant as you cannot just count on the cct surveillance and think that it is safe. Rather alarms are more useful compared to cct surveillance as it is small.

Tiew Yong Xian (37) Question 2

The disadvantages of CCTV surveillance are that they are very fragile and are easily destroyed.
They can just be shut out with some cloth or paint and rendered useless. They are also unable to withstand conditions such as rain.

Justin Ng (30)--Question 1

Advantages of a CCT Surveillance

There are many advantages of CCT Surveillance. One of the main advantages is to be able to keep watch, which is also the CCT Surveillance purpose. Being able to keep watch with the CCT Surveillance will decrease crime rates as one would be able to track criminals easily. Like said in the article, CNN-Big Brothers will be watching you, Hollywood has CCT Surveillance cameras placed around the area, and over the years, police have noted a 60% drop in crime rates in the area. Thus, if this surveillance can be magnified to span over a whole country, there would most likely, and possibly a huge drop in crime rates in the country. Also, surveillance will be able to keep law in order. This is because with today's technology, small details can be caught on tape. Even small crimes like speeding; one can be caught on tape easily due to the CCT surveillance catching them "red handed" by filming down their liscense plate. Another reason for crime drop rates can also possibly be because criminals are aware of the CCT Surveillance and think twice before acting. Therefore another advantage can be that it allows first time criminals to reconsider their actions.

Ryan Cheng (5)

  I feel that CCTV cameras are useful as they act as a deterrent against threats and can provide critical evidence during trials and police investigations. However, there is no need to use them with extreme intensity, as it is unnecessary and costly. I feel that CCTVs should only be used in appropriate places like shops or bus terminals. Concerning privacy, I am not overtly concerned as I have nothing to hide. However, if the CCTV cameras are positioned somewhere sensitive like in a toilet, then of course issues on privacy will have to be addressed.

Kevin Wong (39) Question 3

Yes, I do think that Singapore should step up on CCTV surveillance. This should be done because, in the light of the recent economic downturn, people are resorting to stealing, robbing, going to loan sharks, etc. Also, this ring of surveillance, can, for example, track a robber and help police catch these people. Although people would say it would intrude on privacy, if they haven't done anything wrong, they would not fear anything. The con is that people, tourists, may damage it or remove it. Also, everyone, or anyone would think that their privacy is being invaded. But, they still want security. But, everything comes at a price. If you want security, you must let go of some of your privacy. The whole Singapore police force can't be patrolling every single square foot of Singapore!

Therefore, Singapore should take a poll whether to install security cameras. Then, they should do as the majority want. But i say they should install it.

John Ng (16) Question 2

The biggest problem of CCTV cameras is the feeling of invasion of privacy. Even though it is just a small rectangular object, most of us do not like something or someone keeping an eye on us. Most of us just thinks it is a hindrance then of good help. CCTV cameras are very sensitive. Even a strong punch can cause them damage. Once the CCTV cameras are damage, the location or thing will be out of surveillance unless it is repaired or replaced. In fact, if someone sticks a paper or an opaque object on the lens, the CCTV cameras goes ''blind''. CCTV cameras also cannot withstand extreme environmental conditions like rain, powerful winds, etc. Hence their use is limited to indoor facilities only.